If you have been following the continuing saga over mandating condoms in porn in order to “protect” porn performers from sexually transmitted infections (STI’s) such as HIV, you aleady know all too well by now the story of Cameron Bay, one of the confirmed porn performers to become infected with HIV during 2013, and the main perfomer spokesperson for Isadore Hall’s and the AIDS Healthcare Foundation’s attempt to force condoms and other forms of “barrier protection” through legislative action. Their bill before the California Senate, AB 1576, is now scheduled to be heard before the Senate Appropriations Committee on August 4th; passage there would then allow it to be heard by the full Senate for approval. It has already passed the California Assembly.
As a prelude to the Assembly meeting, apparently AHF and Cam Bay decided that it would be a good idea to send the latter out on the interview circuit within the porn media, mosty in order to response to criticism that Ms. Bay is essentially ducking her own responsibility for her infection (and that of her boyfriend, performer Rod Daily) in order to serve as paid henchwoman for AHF’s condom mandate agenda.
Which is how Cameron Bay managed to contact Michael Whiteacre, contributor for TheRealPornWikileaks.com and one of her strongest critics and opponents of the condom mandate, for what ended up as a 45-minute phone interview. The results, along with Whiteacre’s analysis, was posted to TRPWL last Thursday, and they make for some interesting reading and analysis.
In the interview, Ms. Bay attempts to answer all of the criticisms and questions that Whiteacre and TRPWL has raised about her acquiring HIV, as well as her paid testimonials for AHF and Izzy Hall’s bill. Her answers do clear up some aspects of the controversy…but they also raise, in some parts, some new questions.
I’ll use Whiteacre’s TRPWL post as a template for my own personal thoughts and reactions.
It should be noted that Michael does give Cameron Bay her respect for being cordial and for responding in a mature adult manner, and renders no ill will for her due to her illness. I will share that sentiment 120%; all criticism of Ms. Bay here reflects the hope that she survives her illness with all the best.
That said, though, there’s plenty of Cam’s testimony that doesn’t pass the smell test….and some of her answers actually don’t kill the stink, either.
All quotes from here on out, except where clearly stated, are from Whiteacre’s TRPWL post.
At the outset of our conversation, Cameron said that she wanted to explain why her earliest statements related to her infection stand in stark contrast to statements made later — i.e., after she hooked up with AIDS Healthcare Foundation to join its campaign against the adult business. Cameron explained that she “didn’t want to be that graphic” at first. This statement is odd because her earliest interview was with Adult Video News (AVN) — an adult business trade magazine. Why would it be less okay to be “graphic” with AVN than with the Los Angeles Times?
Cameron’s move to reconcile her differing statements is strangely reminiscent of 2010 ‘Patient Zeta’ turned AHF spokesman Derrick Burts’ attempts to do the same. In a 2011 interview, Burts sought to pass off his latest version as mere elaboration: “I gave this version to the media, but I’m sure you can see why they omitted it—it was probably a little too graphic.”
Maybe, Michael, because this time she is being coached by AHF to say whatever graphic Gothic tale will suffice to scare the public into favoring mandatory condoms, perhaps?? As we will see further along, Cameron Bay seems to have discovered the way to inflate her charges with each venue she offers.
Cameron, who has been shooting scenes since 2008, also justified statements made to the California legislature that she had only been in the business for three months at the time of her HIV infection by stating that she only considered herself a professional adult performer for three months. Prior to that she hadn’t had an agent and was only shooting scenes for her husband — or when she was in need of cash. Whether this distinction is relevant or not may be debated, but there’s an old saying, “amateurs don’t get paid.” Furthermore, many professional adult performers don’t have an agent.
So..if you don’t shoot any scenes in California, and/or do not have an agent representing you, then all of your history doesn’t count or exist?? You mean, then, that Derrick Burts flashing his AIM tests on Rentboy.com doesn’t count, either?? Not to mention, her involvement with Shy Love (then head of ATMLA) in 2012 in setting up shoots for her??
The main focus of Michael Whiteacre’s post, though, was to attempt to reconstruct a timeline for when Cameron Bay was infected, and to rebuke her claims that she was infected through that controversial Kink.com shoot on July 31st….the foundation that underlies the entirity of AHF’s/Izzy Hall’s legal rampage.
Cam asserted to Whiteacre that she had “broken up” with Rod Daily prior to her trip to San Francisco for the Kink.com shoot, and that the last time they had sex together was in July when they got together in Los Angeles.* Since Daily’s last PASS test was on July 10th (which he was found to be HIV/STI-free), that would put their last tryst by mid-July. (A screenshot of Daily’s final PASS test is posted in Whiteacre’s interview post. Remember, though, that Daily refused to use the PASS system after that, announcing his positive test on September 3rd through another source…either his personal doctor or an AHF-backed physician using more traditional ELISA testing.) Cam then retested, and was cleared, on July 27th, then traveled to Frisco for the Kink shoot with Xander Corvus and Lorelei Lee.
The party line all along being pushed by Cameron Bay and all the other proponents of the condom mandate was that Corvus was the “Patient Zero” who infected her during that shoot. Considering that Corvus tested negative before the shoot, tested negative right after the shoot, and has not had a positive test since then despite shooting all kinds of bareback scenes, that assertion could be highly questionable. (Ditto for Lorelei Lee as well.)
Cam’s attempted response to all that?? The system is LYING. Really, it is.
I asked Cameron about her fixation on Xander’s bloody penis at the Kink shoot, in light of the fact that he’s HIV negative. Her response was, “How do you know?” She sought to denigrate PASS testing by saying that any PASS “administrator” could change a performer’s status from “Not Available” to “Available” with a mouse click.
This is pure propagandistic deflection by Cameron. Aside from the fact that every HIV test result at a clinic / laboratory is automatically reported to the county health department, regardless of PASS protocols, Corvus has shot hundreds of condom-less shoots since July 31, 2013. If Corvus is HIV-positive, either he would have infected dozens of people by now (who would have infected dozens if not hundreds more), OR, mandating condoms in porn as proposed by AHF is not necessary because HIV is not transmittable on porn sets.
Forget the basic fact that no PASS “administrator” would be that stupid to modify an infected performer’s status to make him/her available for shoots and risk a cataclysmic epidemic of performers that would essentially shut down the porn industry for good. And, forget Whiteacre’s point that any HIV+ result is mandated to be reported to the health authorities post haste, with the threat of fines and jail as enforcement.
Indeed, you could even make a presumption that since Corvus was clean but it was Bay who initiated the crisis at that shoot by biting down just a bit too much on Xander’s dick, she, not Corvus, was the threat to transmit infection. I don’t make that presumption, of course, since it’s my assertion that Cameron Bay probably was either infected right after or a few days after that shoot.
Cameron then attempted to explain away her charge that Kink.com exploited her by “forcing” her to continue the shoot without a condom, in spite of reams of testimony by others at the shoot that she had multiple options. This time, she went to the “They violated the LAW” card:
As for Cameron’s claim that she was taken advantage of on the Kink set because the shoot with Xander continued after she accidentally scraped his penis with her teeth, she gave a similarly-crafted answer. She agreed to continue shooting when asked, she says, but she claims she did not know that to do so was allegedly in violation of Cal/OSHA regulations, so therefore it was not a fully informed consent.
This is a very legalistic answer, and perhaps explains how Cameron could rationalize her statements to the California legislature, but it’s still a dodge that does not reflect the tone and tenor her public testimony.
Really?? This is miming the standard AHF line that “condoms are already required by law, so if you don’t mandate them, you are in violation” canard. If that’s the case, then why is AB 1576 being pushed? Why is CalOSHA attempting to rewrite the regulations on “bloodborne/bodily fluid transmissions” to include adult businesses and mandate condoms and other forms of barrier protection? Other than the civil action AHF has filed against Kink.com on their lack of mandated condoms with CalOSHA (which should be a moot point anyway since, once again, no performer in that shoot (other than Bay and Daily) has been found to be infected at that time of since then), is there any other case that’s not an AHF propaganda ploy to sell the condom mandate?
Whiteacre continues with this:
Cameron told me that she has focused her blame on the brief time spent at Kink.com not because they are a top AHF target, but instead because, other than her on-camera performances, she had only had sex with one person during the time period in question, and he has since tested negative. Presumably, it’s okay to rely upon the result of his test…
Of course, she won’t say what type of test he relied on, or whether it was followed up.
And then, this happens. Remember when Cameron said that she had “broken up” with Rod Daily last July? Weeelllllll…
In any case, Rod was already in San Francisco when she arrived on July 31, 2013. Cameron confirms that when she arrived, Rod had been in San Francisco for a “nearly a week”. Like the other times when “he wasn’t around” her, she cannot speak to his activities.
Daily shot a scene for Kink with a TS performer (using a condom) on August 1st; Cameron recalls him working with a blonde TS performer. This would be Aubrey Kate. According to Kink, every performer who shot with Rod has since tested HIV-negative — including Aubrey.
After Rod’s shoot, Cameron and Rod flew to Burbank, California. Rod had a connecting flight to Phoenix, but Cameron stayed in the Los Angeles area.
Cameron has perviously stated, “My last shoot was with Kink and the last time I saw Rod was a week later”, meaning they met up in Arizona before her she tested positive for HIV.
Keep in mind also that one of the options that was offered to Cameron at the time of the Kink.com shoot, according to contemporaries there, was to bring Rod Daily over to finish the scene. Would that be an option for her if they had really “broken up”??
And, the fact that Cam and Rod would hook back up in Arizona the week after the Kink shoot is highly problematic for a couple who had presumably “broken up” a month ago.
Could it be that Daily was infected doing some extracurricular off-the-clock activity like Derrick Burts was in 2010? And then, somehow, the week after the Kink shoot, he infected Cam Bay when they met afterwards? Like I said, just my personal unproven, unverified assumptions.
In any case, everything changed after August 21st, when Cameron Bay learned of her HIV+ status.
After her HIV diagnosis, Cameron returned to Arizona and got back together with Rod. They moved in together.
When I asked Cameron why shy thought Rod did not test immediately after her HIV-positive diagnosis, she said it was “we weren’t a couple” — meaning that, since they had allegedly not had sex since mid-July, he didn’t think he was at risk.
With all due respect to Cameron, who was very open to answering hard questions, I find it hard to believe that Rod would not at least take the precaution of an HIV test at that point.
It was right about that time when Daily was all over Twitter, running all sorts of smack about how he wasn’t HIV+ and how he would be posting his test results to prove everybody wrong….while simultaneously refusing to take the PASS tests. He ultimately did confirm his HIV+ status on September 3rd through Twitter, testing through a non-PASS source, and then squawking about how the PASS database was useless in preventing HIV because the medicine he was taking for treatment was undercutting the tests by cloaking the virus. (To which, actual AIDS testing researchers and people knowledgable with retrovirals and HIV testing responded: Bull. Poop.)
The only logical explanation you could give for Daily’s response was that he was already infected at the time, and all his show-n-blow was either myopic denial or deliberate playacting for the inevitable moment. And after that, the AHF paychecks to pay for his treatment started kicking in.
But, hang on….the intrigue only gets better.
Remember that there was a third performer in 2013 that got infected with HIV during that crisis period; her diagnosis on September 10th is what prompted the second moratorium following Cam Bay’s announcement on August 21st.
Before now, she was just speculation….but now, we can attach a name and a history to her. Sofia Delgado is her name, and she officially introduced herself to the world at the California Senate Labor Committee hearings as a supporter of AB 1576, albeit only briefly as a sideshow to Cameron Bay’s main Big Tent antics.
However, she had already been partially revealed by Michael Whiteacre’s/TRPWL’s prior investigative efforts as Performer #3, and as a close friend of both Cam Bay and Rod Daily.
In the actual phone interview, Cam Bay strenuously denied that she and Delgado were actual lovers on the side, and that she could have gotten infected indirectly from Sofia….even though, all three of them hailed from the same area (Phoenix).
She says that she never had any sexual contact with Delgado, and never knew her in Arizona. Delgado was (and still is) under 21, so Cameron says it would have been unlikely for her — or Rod — to have met Sofia at a bar or club in the Phoenix area.
Delgado had been a stripper in the Phoenix area since she was 18, dancing at the gentleman’s clubs Dream Palace and Elite Cabaret in Tempe, Arizona, so there were many other opportunities for them to meet. Cameron countered that Rod never liked strip clubs, so she finds it hard to believe that he would have met her there.
But again, as Cameron stated, she “wasn’t always around him.”
Can’t be your brother’s keeper all the time, I guess.
Whiteacre rounds out the sad tale thusly:
If that phrase sounds familiar, perhaps that’s because it is — to the word — the same thing Derrick Burts’ girlfriend, performer Kaycee Brooks, told an interviewer in 2012.
Incidentally, this was the same answer Cameron gave when I asked whether Rod was escorting during the time they were together. “He never said anything to me about it,” she says, “Unless he was living a double life…”
On the morning of September 3rd, Rod Daily announced on Twitter that he was HIV+, and implied he had known this for days. A few hours later, ATMLA tweeted that Delgado’s L.A. trip had been pushed a week — to September 15th.
Funny how everything seems to go right back to Rod Daily, doesn’t it??
The final piece of unfinished issues in that interview dealt with Cameron Bay’s new wealth since becoming AHF’s official condom mandate spokeswoman. It’s one thing — and no one should have any objection at all — for AHF to offer to pay for Cam’s HIV treatment. But…
Cameron claims she was not paid by AHF for her testimony. I asked where she suddenly got the money this year to buy a car, get a new pad, pay $10,000 toward her court fines, pay for new boobs and be robbed of $10,000?
Cameron replied that she won $16,000 at a casino.
I see a tweet about a casino on March 8, and that could account for the $9,027 payment to the court on April 8, but Cameron got her boobs re-done in back in January and started furniture shopping for her new place in February. The numbers don’t add up.
Cameron claims, however that AHF has only “provided transportation” for her. She also denied that AHF had hooked her up with someone who would provide for her in one way or another.
You mean that an organization with nearly $250 million in revenue wouldn’t give a penny in bonuses to their chief advocate that could potentially bring millions more in revenue from condom advertising to their org?? Seriously??
The point is not that Cameron Bay shouldn’t get paid for the job she’s doing for AHF, but that they should be just a bit more transparent about what they are doing and call it for what it really is.
There is this to say about Cameron Bay: she has stones to survive what she’s been through. Even if I strongly disagree with her message and her campaign, I gotta give her credit for that.
Incidentially….Cameron Bay also did an interview with Whiteacre’s nemesis/antagonist/condom mandate proponent Mike South for his blog; that interview was more focused on ripping the current ATMLA porn agency’s leadership while propping up former head agent Shy Love, and for the usual South circus of bullshit. That’s another tale for another time, though.
*A previously saved version of this post implied that Cameron Bay and Rod Daily had shot content in Los Angeles just prior to the Kink.com shoot in San Francisco. That is incorrect; Cam Bay’s interview with Michael Whiteacre only stated that they had engaged in private sex, not actually shot content. My apologies for the initial error.