Well…it seems that Lydia Lee isn’t the only one of late who has to deal with antiporn trolls who just don’t know when to stop.
I recently came upon a comment that was posted in the moderation queue for the Blog of Pro-Porn Activism, which I contribute to and manage, to the most recent post by Ernest Greene. who happens to be both the husband of Nina Hartley and one of the founding members of what used to be the AIM Foundation (now reborn as AIM Medical Associates), on AIM’s potential survival in the wake of the efforts of Pornwikileaks, Cal-OSHA, and the AIDS Healthcare Foundation (AHF) to undermine their testing regime and impose mandatory condom usage on all performers. As you will see, the comment has a particularly nasty POV regarding performers rights, and is mostly nothing more than the usual inflammatory smack heard more often from antiporn activists.
Using the agreed-to rule (at least, agreed upon by the contributors of BPPA) that direct attacks on performers not be given that platform to poison the debate, I decided not to approve the comment for publication, but rather place it in the spam folder for safekeeping. Nevertheless, I believe that the comment says so much about the mentality of those who wish to impose condom mandates that it deserves a response from me using this space. BPPA is designed to be a safe zone for performers and professionals and activists, and not suitable for debates or even smackdowns….but in this space, I can call a spade a spade and a whackjob a whackjob.
Here is the comment in its entirity….and naturally, the commentor is “Anonymous”:
As with any industry, where can we go to get a list of injuries related to occupational work in porn valley?
How many injuries that required surgery? How many non-HIV disease transmissions?
Also, does AIM test for heroin, oxy or other narcotics to ensure that drug addicts aren’t being exploited?
OSHA standards? Sounds like a VERY good idea. What other job does being beaten, choked and having several inches in width shoved up your ass while being called a “stupid cunt”?
No doubt Ernest will be responding with some diatribe about prudery and christian fanatics, or dread femi-nazis.
Meanwhile… let’s get back to OSHA standards for all workers and stop letting industry pimps pretend they give a rats’s ass about women’s health or how fucked up it is that millions of people are jerking off to images of women getting abused.
We wouldn’t want to be “sex negative” or anything… So bitches, open up an say aahhhh… because whores have no rights. Thank you… “sex positivity”
I have my ideas about who would be suitable for writing this crap…but for now, I’ll begrudginly give “Anon” his right to his mis-identity. And that’ll be the last bit of respect he’ll get.
Let’s break it down by sentence, shall we??
As with any industry, where can we go to get a list of injuries related to occupational work in porn valley?
Gee, I don’t know…does OSHA allow for a list of injuries to, say, coal miners suffering from black lung, or workers of nuclear power plants who risk getting cancers from radiation leaks?? And, more importantly, why should it be assumed that OSHA (whether the Cali branch or the national affiliate) should be informed about every single injury ever done to a porn performer in or out of his/her job??
No one is saying that there shouldn’t be some minimal standards of safety during porn shoots. The issue is whether or not the standards that Cal-OSHA would impose — which would include not only condoms but also dental dams and in some cases even goggles and face shields — would be even effective or even overkill in the name of “protecting” performers…including those majority of performers whom have proven themselves not to be needing that extreme kind of “protection” that our Anon wants. Or..whether or not this is simply abusing a group of people — namely, sex workers and porn performers — merely to get paid off their suffering and exploitation as “vectors of disease”.
Besides that, what sort of injuries would Anon wish to chronicle?? STI’s which occur in a much greater rate in the general population than in porn (unless (s)he happens to believe that porn is indeed the incubator of all sexually transmitted diseases)?? Yeast infections?? Menstrual blood?? Mere cuts and bruises?? Or, should we hold out for the REAL stories of full scale mass throat and anal rape, or the super secret snuff films that we know are murdering women every hour on the hour on porn sets daily??
I’m so sure that Cal-OSHA, even in these times of severe budget crises in the state government, will be perfectly capable of tracking down and prosecuting such evils..or simply resolving them by jamming a condom down the performer’s throat. Yeah, that’ll work well…never mind the fact that most porn is nowadays done for home sites and driving AIM out of business and the industry out of the safety and continuity of the current testing regime would simply force performers into much more dangerous and less regulated situations. Not to mention, putting people out of work. But, maybe that’s Anon’s point all along.
How many injuries that required surgery? How many non-HIV disease transmissions?
Also, does AIM test for heroin, oxy or other narcotics to ensure that drug addicts aren’t being exploited?
That’s really funny…because by law AIM is required to test only for HIV and herpes (though they did offer testing for other STI’s upon request. There is no standard for testing for other narcotics…and nor should there be in the first place. Maybe Anon may have missed this, but most porn consumers and performers want to be clean and sober, as most drugs tend to depreciate the wanted experience of sexual pleasure. It’s kind of hard to deliver lines when you are stoned or whacked out on heroin or meth, and especially not so easy to maintain your erectile “edge” and shoot on cue when you are incapacitated by alcohol or any other controlled substance. In most porn sets I know, there are 5 women and 2 men in wait if any performer turns up not at his best to replace him/her…that tends to kick out the drugged out better than any testing regimen.
Only someone who’s never even been to a porn shoot — or one of Shelley Lubben’s or Gail Dines’ mindless clones — would insinuate that porn performers are inately drug addicts. I guess we can place Anony in both levels??
OSHA standards? Sounds like a VERY good idea. What other job does being beaten, choked and having several inches in width shoved up your ass while being called a “stupid cunt”?
Try almost every other job, asshole. Women outside of porn have been beaten and choked for decades, and plenty of women have been raped anally without the need for or assistance of porn. Many more women have also willingly and safely enjoyed “having several inches in width” stuffed up their asses (does that include dildos and butt plugs, too, Anony??)..and I’m so sure that they would appreciate as well Cal-OSHA’s attempt to protect them from their own desires and take away their right of free will.
And as for calling them “stupid cunts”?? Funny, but you don’t seem to have a problem with women being called such in the context of non-sexual non-consensual relationships, do you?? Where are you when Gail Dines breaks out the “cumdumpster” card?? Or, when Ministeress Lubben reverts to calling porn performers (at least, those who don’t immediately faint to their knees and worship her as ROXYY!!!…errrrrr, I mean, Saint Shelley of Assisi, bringing God’s salvation and rescue to all ex-sluts everywhere) “diseased”, “prostituted”, and incapable of free will or thought?? And, where are you when right-wingers resort to the same epithet to demonize and stigmatize not only women in porn, but ALL women not following the pristine path of “modesty” and marriage??
But hey, Anonymous doesn’t want to insult porn women (actually, (s)he does, only (s)he wants to mask her hatred under the cloak of protection and human concern)…(s)he only wants to “save” them by allowing the steady hand of OSHA to impose “modest” standards and to force them to use condoms in their scenes..because that’s how (s)he will either force their users to use condoms themselves through “role modeling” (If the only thing the stupid proles see is people driving red cars, then they will themselves buy red cars, and red car dealers and owners will rake in the prosperity!!!), or the “industry” will simply wilt out of existence altogether, and the romance (and ignorance) media market will bloom a thousand flowers again from elimination of the competition.
No doubt Ernest will be responding with some diatribe about prudery and christian fanatics, or dread femi-nazis.
Meanwhile… let’s get back to OSHA standards for all workers and stop letting industry pimps pretend they give a rats’s ass about women’s health or how fucked up it is that millions of people are jerking off to images of women getting abused.
Ah, yes….the old radfem boilerplate, concentrated in one sustained bowel movement. Refer to a male pornographer as an “industry pimp”. Raise one more time the “Owwwwwwwww….they called us ‘antisex prudes’ and ‘femi-Nazis” again!!!” canard. (And of course, also the “Christian fanatics” addedum as a bonus, completely washing away the collusion between antiporn feminists and right-wing antifeminist fundamentalists in hating women who insist on their right to enjoy sexually explicit media on their own terms.)
And, of course, the usual smack of “fucked up” men jerking off to “women being abused” because we all know how much women are abused and raped and horrified by such things as sperm in the face, or a dick in the ass, or even a dick in her…..mouth. And, we all know that women are waaaaaay too pure to even have a hint of sexual autonomy to jill off to such “abuse”…right, Belladonna?? Cameron Diaz?? Carrie Prejean?? Sharron Angle?? Ms. Bueller?? Ms. Bueller??
And the final coup de’resistance of this inanity:
We wouldn’t want to be “sex negative” or anything… So bitches, open up an say aahhhh… because whores have no rights. Thank you… “sex positivity”
The addition of that attempted insult only makes our Anony look like an anttporn hack. Actually, jackass, we who call ourselves “sex-positive” believe that “whores” actually have many rights….the same rights and responsibilities to protect themselves from unwanted diseases and injury as any other person. As I said at the beginning, the debate about condoms is NOT about whether performers should or should not have the right to insist on them if they so desire; it is well agreed that they should. (You do know that Ernest Greene has been a long time advocate for performer choice and for not punishing performers for wanting condom use, right, Anony?? Or, are you so dense not to even have read his own words??) It is all about whether imposing condoms in porn shoots at the risk of both harming performers more and costing them their livelihood (because it is proven fact that condomized porn simply doesn’t sell to the overall public, other than a very narrow demographic), and whether the push for a condom mandate is simply an invented porn panic using the bodies of porn performers as political pinatas for the greed and benefit of certain parties.
Or…useless props for antiporn vents like that comment.