Memo To Furry Girl: Breast Feeding Is NOT A Sexual Fetish..It Is Nourishing A Child!!! (A Defense Of Madison Young)

It’s never easy when you have to be critical of someone you respect and admire…but so sorry, Furry Girl, but you are waaaaaaaaaay out to lunch here.

The background, for those not knowing: Furry Girl  — of Feminisnt and SWAAY.org — has several burrs up her butt because alt.porn starlet Madison Young had the termidity to promote her pregnancy and her birth of her daughter, Emma, as a means of supporting the somehow still radical idea that porn performers were human beings and not just sperm receptacles or sex dolls.  Madison had been including pics of her pregnancy and of her daughter at her site (in vastly asexual positions, of course), and even included  her in an art exhibit…which also had a photo of Madison breast-feeding Emma.

Apparently, that is too much for FurryGirl to handle, because according to her, using a child anywhere near a porn scene is essentially the equivalent of kiddie porn…or at the very least, an enabler and trigger for pedophiles and other “creeps”.

Now, FG hasn’t yet posted anything at Feminisnt on this little smack war yet…but oh, has she been using up her Twitter stream to lambast Madison Young for her heresy. Some examples:

Am I the only one in the perv community who is creeped out by those who fetishize breast feeding? Since when is an infant a sexy accessory? (Aug. 11th,)

I am so happy I don’t live in San Francisco. I would hate to have to pretend that borderline pedophilia is transgressive and revolutionary. (Aug. 11th)

@nuwishas_tail Adult women who breast feed their infants for the sexual gratification of other adults. That’s fucking creepy. (Aug. 11th)

@madisonyoung That’s funny coming from a semi-pedophile like you. Infants aren’t butt plugs or a kink accessory. (Aug 12th, response to this)

I’m so glad I live in conservative uptight small-town Seattle where the kink community doesn’t involve small children in their turn-ons. (Aug. 12th)

I am SO PROUD of being a prude when it comes to the issue of involving non-consenting babies in one’s kinks. BIG TIME PRUDE. Loud and proud. (Aug. 12th)

Some other sexpro celebs and limelights have rallied to Madison’s defense, including Maggie Mayhem (whom has used her own Twitter stream to rebuke FG), and Epiphora, who today linked this blog post from an unrelated site defending Young as a pioneering sex+ artist.

I’m not going to speak for them, or for Madison, whom has spoken quite eloquently and defended herself well.

All I’m going to ask is this to you, FG:

If a pic of a woman breastfeeding her child in a non-sexual format at a non-sexual art show is enough to get your panties bunched up like Bill O’Reilly at a Playboy Club dinner, then how in the hell can you call yourself a sexual rebel??

Even if someone may get sexually aroused by the sight of a woman nursing her child, as long as (s)he manages to treat the nurser with enough respect to respect her space, there is NO issue. Most pedophiles aren’t going to go after 2 year old kids, you know.Besides, it’s not the kid they are sexualizing, FG..it’s the WOMAN’s BREASTS and NIPPLES. You have got it totally bassackwards.

And this “San Francisco kink values” crapola?? Gee, like they don’t make porn in Seattle?? Like, women don’t breast feed there, too? And, how the hell would you know if men looking at women nursing their children are walking around with instant boners going after them?? As if there aren’t enough legitimate sexual triggers there to begin with??

And, really, Furry Girl…we get it that you don’t like feminism. Fair enough. There are plenty of women who call themselves feminists who aren’t so likeable. But, who the HELL are you to smear everyone you don’t like as pedophile enablers and “feminists” merely because they get under your skin?? Spoken like a true MRA enabler.

You can squawk all you want about “consent” and “using a baby as a sex prop” until the cows come home….but I don’t think that Madison’s child will suffer any bit of damage foe wanting to get her dose of mother’s milk off her mom.  Actually,, I really don’t think that Emma, not being ol enough to even comprehend anything than “Feed me, Mommy”, is the least concerned about much of anything. I mean, do you ask your vibrator for its consent when you shove it up your orfices??

I’m sure that right-wing fundamentalist sex fascists around the world will be praising you, FG, for doing their dirty work for them in slamming women who breastfeed their children as mindless sluts deserving of being treated as less than human. Well freakin’ done.

Another example of how sex workers need to put aside petty bullshit and work together.

And understand that a woman’s breast is more than just the sum of her nipple and her cleavage.

 

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Reaction From The Radfem Peanut Gallery: From "Dick" to "Moron" And Everything In Between

Hmmmm….it seems that little middle-aged me has had quite an effect on a certain clique of antiporn “feminists”.

Just for fun and games, for hits and giggles, and to be totally nosy…errrrrr, informed, I decided to browse through the comments to Witchy-Woo’s aformentioned broadside against me for having the gall to question their unalienable right to bash women who don’t think that porn is the ultimate rape weapon and prostitution is the ultimate slavery.

What I found was so…well, interesting, that I had to share it with you. Rather than do the linkage thing, I will simply re-cut and paste the freshest insults…or feeble attempts thereof.

L.M. //

Of course when radical feminists demand or even mildly request that men – as the blame for rape lies at men’s feet – should stop raping, stop promoting rape, stop excusing rape and stop ignoring rape, then people start attacking us as man-hating anti-sex prudes.

That I would perfectly agree with….now, where in any of my posts here or anywhere have I done such a thing as promote rape, then???

And maybe the reason why you get attacked as “man-hating sex prudes” is because…well….you just might BE man-hating sex prudes???

Oh…and why should “radical feminists” get all the credit for insisting on men to stop raping women?? I thought that that basic creed of feminism was simply plain common sense to ALL decent men AND women??

sparklematrix //

I often get a bit weirded out when I hear of some men’s plans for US. You know the ‘real live’ and ‘sexually active’ (or not as the case may be) US.

Are radical feminists not ‘real live women’ or ‘sexually active women‘?

[women] …“are being assaulted, dehumanized, and denied basic freedoms and rights right under our noses”

We need a man to tell US this?

No, Sparkle….but the point was that SEX workers were being murdered, assaulted, and denied basic protections and humanity….and your side is doing all it can to deny them even more….unless, of course, they concede to your ideological definition of their existence. Oh, BTW…..last time I checked, Bob Jensen, Richard Leader, and John Stoltenberg were all men with, I assume, real live penises; will you attack them for that as well??? Oh, I forgot…they are totally on your side, so I guess that makes them “honorary women”???

thebewilderness //

Excuse me? I’m bewildered.

Is he asking what the plan is to stop him from exploiting women?

Blunders off.

Ah, yes, here we go now…..obviously, since I dare to question APRF ideology, I must be, like, a serial rapist or a genuine pimp only seeking to entrap and ensnare every woman I see…because only the most rabid penis-driven brute would ever disagree with the beauty and prestineness of antiporn feminist theory. Given all the women I’ve bedded, I should barely have time to write my blog. Or, so I wish. In your dreams, ladies.

stormy //

Have pity on him bewilderness, after all, he has little time to come up with a plan when most of his time is spent slagging off radfems. That, and his desire to keep using women as commodities.

First off, Stormy, most of my time is spent at my job, where “slagging off radfems” is the furthest from my mind. I only do that during my off time.

Secondly, my measly salary won’t quite allow me to “use women as commodities” as much as you would think in your twisted mind.

Thirdly…does that mean that you’ll be gathering private information on my personal life, too, to be used as blackmail against me?? Don’t sing it, dearie…..bring it.

jennifer drew //

Well for a start he could call out other men who believe men are entitled to have sexual access to any woman or girl. So simple yet so hard to actually do. Put blame where it rightly lies with the men who rape women and demand a never ending fresh supply of women and girls. This includes men demanding more and more misogynstic and violent porn, more younger women to sexually abuse in the name of ‘entertainment,’ more women and girls involved in prostitution. More graphic images of women and girls portrayed as men’s sexualised ‘toys.’ And yes he could lobby against Hooters chain of restaurants which are nothing more than places for men to enter and legally sexually harass and sexually assault female staff.

Need I say any more?

You know, Jennifer, I would agree with you wholeheartedly…except for the small issue that some women actually WANT to have men sexually accessible to them….and as long as they ask and seek willful consent, who the hell am I to object??? Actually, most men I know don’t want an “endless supply of sexually available girls” to rape and plunder; they just find beautiful women who acknowledge their gaze and their lusts to be sexually arousing and attractive. As long as they are able to respect them as full human beings otherwise, there is no case whatsoever for you to demean either the men or the women who seek and delight in that gaze.

Oh….and Hooters is sooooo past news; especially since see so much more skin and harass women in far more public venues.

And now, we get to the heavy hitters:

pisaquari //

Who invited Dick?

Oh no lemme guess. He invited himself. He barged in. He said “a discussion about how to help women?” and immediately thought of all his dickish qualifications: a dick, dick friends, a dick-vested interest and history in women.

Here’s a plan: no dicks allowed in the planning phases, the plans won’t need a permit and we start building when we want.

And no whining when you find out how much it has absolutely *nothing* to do with Dick.

Funny…but last time I noticed, this was located at Ren’s blog…..she invited “Dick”…..ahhhh, I mean, yours truly in to comment on Laurelin’s statement. But, I guess that that makes Ren part of the “Dick” conspiracy….if not a certified “Dick” herself???

And speaking thereof Laurelin, she gets her hooks in, too:

Laurelin //

Oh hell, that cowardly moron again?! He is utterly despicable. The way he screams abuse at radical feminists shows his misogyny in no uncertain terms; he reveals himself in every post- I find it hard to believe that anyone tolerates him commenting on their blogs. The way he speaks to women is beyond revolting- I am so sick of him and his ilk. And what right has he to be sounding off about the sex industry- he’s neither a woman nor a survivor, so he can fuck right off.

The bottom line is that he is a user of pornstitution (porn at least), and has the mentality of a john. He has an interest in keeping the oppression of women going. Thus his views are worthless when the liberation of women is considered.

Oh, Laurelin, you have outed me there….I am confessing right now that I am indeed a large consumer of porn….and indeed, I am Ren’s secret private john and pimp, paying her tens and ones of dollars under the cover to perform outrageous acts of freakery on me…and using her evol male patriachially-enduced sexuality to control the world through plastic tits and moist pussies and round asses!!! Feel my wrath, bee-yoches!!! BWWWHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!111ONE!!!

Or….not.

And about how I “speak” to women: Maybe you shuld know, Laurelin, that in my job, I am both over and supervised by women; I was raised by a woman, have four grown sisters, and communicate with women all my life. And yet, I manage not to rape. brutalize, or even insult any one of them. Gee, I must be really special to avoid all those temptations to rape and pillage with all the porn and prostituting you say I do.

Oh, but wait!!! Laurelin’s not quite finished:

“Who invited Dick?

Oh no lemme guess. He invited himself. He barged in”

Didn’t you know that Dick is already automatically invited by virtue of having an opinion, a bit mouth, and well… a dick? we should all be grateful that he has taken his hand off his cock long enough to enlighten us with his theory of how we’re all right-wing nutcases because we take violence against women seriously.

Male entitlement is amazing to me. I’m always surprised by how far it goes, and literally how much such chaps think is owed them, how we should all listen to their dumbass opinion. The fact that their pleasure is other women’s misery is nothing to them; that their belligerence and aggression is intimidating (or can be) to women means nothing to men.

You tell them this, and they refuse to hear it. We’ve told these fuckwits time and time again. It is always their right, their freedom of speech etc. No-one else matters. Cowards.

Oh, really, Laurelin…..I posted a comment in a sex-positive blog hosted by an activist sex worker defending a pro-sex sex worker…..hardly “butting” myself in anything. Not quite like, say, your allies posting pseudonym-laced drive-by crackbacks and threatening their critics with outings if they continue to “trash” your side, right???

Oh….and try getting your singular/plural agreement straight: that should be either “his dumbass opinion(s)” or “their dumbass opinions”.

But the win goes to Polly Styrene for her alternative to my “plan”:

polly styrene //

What’s my plan? Well I’m going to get a big gun and go round shooting all the MEN who are assaulting, dehumanizing etc. No wait that’s illegal. So I guess maybe the men will have to stop doing it?

Also are ‘merely’ sexually inactive women not being assaulted, dehumanized etc?

Am I missing something? Other than the illogicality gene?

Yup, that would be a wonderful plan…..shoot all the men who have erections. And she says that I have the “illogicality gene”???

And finally, to wrap this up, Maggie Hays herself brings down the kitchen sink on me and all other :”Dicks” who dare to question her and her allies:

Maggie Hays //

“. . .what’s your plan for them/us, these real, live women, Mr Pro-(female) sex work, Mr Pro-Porn (depicting a female sexuality that panders entirely to your ‘masculine’ power needs), Mr De-humaniser-of-women-and-girls Kennerson? What’s your plan to globally free women and girls from the needs of a penis (read ego) like yours?”

Ha, ha, that is so wonderfully put, Witchy-Woo! You’ve been so courageous to post this. Well-done! Thank you so much, Witchy for that. :D

Pornography is woman-hating and dehumanizing propaganda material that makes degradation, violence and abuse invisible as it makes these things feel simply like sex to its users. The easiest ways of making violence, degradation, abuse and misogyny invisible are (1) sexualizing these cruel things and (2) making it look like women either want or enjoy such rough sexual treatments. Pornography has awfully negative effects on its users:[irrelevant antiporn agitprop link deleted]

WRT thebewilderness’ comment:
“Is he asking what the plan is to stop him from exploiting women?”

I would say instead: Is he asking what the plan is to stop men from exploiting women around the globe? The solution would certainly not be legalization of prostitution, it has failed=
[anti-legalization prostitution agitprop link deleted]

On the other hand, the Swedish approach to prostitution has worked
[another link to more  antiporn/antisexwork agitprop link deleted]

WRT Stormy’s comment:
“Have pity on him bewilderness, after all, he has little time to come up with a plan when most of his time is spent slagging off radfems. That, and his desire to keep using women as commodities.”

I agree that I don’t believe that Kennerson has anything better to do than online radfem-bashing, which is so pathetic. We haven’t ever done nothing to this guy and his pro-porny friends apart from being anti-porn radfems, which seem to be enough for this pro-porner and his friends to steal too large quotes from our posts without even asking for copyright permissions, stalking us online and stupidly trash us on their blogs. The abusive or inappropriate language that (especially male) pro-porners are using when bashing us clearly show the negative effects this woman-hating pornography has on them! The fact that this guy hasn’t anything better to do than bashing radfems is so pathetic and proves his desire to keep using women as commodities, as you pointed out, Stormy.

Finally, I agree with you Lost Clown: What about the radical feminists who have been in the sex industry (many that I also know myself), who have painful stories to tell and who are indeed shouted down repeatedly. Where is the support for them?

Also, where is the support for the majority of prostituted women who want out of the industry? Where is the justice?

Although I could go on a nice rant about the ininaties of Maggie’s blurbs, I’ve already done that previously…so I will just let her statement stand on its own dead weight and let you, the reader, pass final judgment.

Ahhh..such is the life of being a pro-porn Black male Leftist….if these fools are that discombubulated by little old me, then I must be doing something right in the world.

Keep it a coming, ladies….nothing heals quite like good smack.

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